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ratatooie
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Tool Recommendation?

Post by ratatooie on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 11:48 am

I intend to have a gander at the sales post Christmas and New Year with the view to getting a decent combination cordless drill. I'm very much of the school of thought of "buy once" so I would rather spend a bit more now and get a really good one that will last. 

I would really like a brushless motor with a hammer function, preferably a set with two batteries as well. My usage would be mostly DIY and general garage applications, but with the possibility of a bit heavier use as well.  

One of my relatives swears by Dewalt. The DCD795D2 looks to be a good option (about £200 average price) and ticks all the boxes. I have also seen the bigger brother DCD995M2, which is a bit more expensive and seems targeted at the trade so might be overkill for my purposes. 

I also like Bosch as a brand (my corded drill has taken years of abuse and is still going strong) and have heard good things about Makita, but never used them. 

What are you recommendations?

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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by sullivj on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 11:55 am

I have a few Dewalt drills.  I'm a big fan of dewalt for what I need it for.  It's well made, without costing a fortune.  Similar to Halfords Professional.  It's not far short of snap on quality, at a fraction of the cost.

Screwfix often have good deals on dewalt stuff.
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by Jameshambleton on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 12:33 pm

Have a look at a youtube channel called AvE he strips down tools and shows out the weak points of them, just make sure you listen with earphones or when no one is around sometimes it gets a bit weird.
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by ratatooie on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 12:57 pm

@Jameshambleton wrote:Have a look at a youtube channel called AvE he strips down tools and shows out the weak points of them, just make sure you listen with earphones or when no one is around sometimes it gets a bit weird.

"Skookum etc etc". Yeah he is an interesting one. I almost feel like I need a translator at some points!
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by wornsprokets on Wed 28 Dec 2016, 2:37 pm

I work in construction(nearly didnt couple weeks ago Rolling Eyes ) the main screw guns & torque guns used are dewalt ...its ah of the battery to watch for they come with 1.5ah/2ah batterys the carpenters use 4ah batterys the guys use but there not cheap...
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by ratatooie on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 12:48 pm

Slight update - I have discovered Matabo drills and had a brief play with them. They seem really good and come with 5Ah batteries. Not cheap, but I think I may be able to get a deal. I'm investigating more, but the choice is between Dewalt and them at the moment. 

Any Matabo insights? I gather that they are German made.
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Post by wornsprokets on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 1:14 pm

My Dad i think has a matabo screw gun... think there a fairly solid screw gun...i used it before he said it was good he know he was in construction nearly 50yrs  ...5ah batterys be amazing.... but i havent see matabo being used on construction sites it been dewalt and makita  ive seen .   ..panasonic was also an amazing screw guns but way too expensive.... remember with all cordless tool batterys lack of use can kill batterys so regular use of them... i also used bosch screw guns but not green version..(domestic) i used dark blue version( professional) thery were very good we had two screw guns,skillsaw, sabre saw and 6batterys that were interchanageble 3/4ah... got serious abuse in two years skilsaw broke(constant cutting ply wood 18mm) both screwguns broke but (were fixed under warranty) sabre saw survived(constant cutting every thing as angle grinders were not allowed) skilsaw/sabresaw/ two screw guns/and 6batterys was about 2k to buy....payed for its self 10times over and they got outrageous abuse.... only skilsaw was scrap others stil live on....and batterys are fine
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by Fair Weather Rider on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 1:15 pm

I have a Ryobi 18v LLCDI1802 hammer drill, it's amazing so controllable and power when you need it.
And don't forget the one battery fits all.
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by wornsprokets on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 1:26 pm

I had ryobi cordless sds hammer drill it was good for what it was and was cheap...about 240euro... but ive a cordless dewalt 32v sds it an other level to ryobi.. then again its more than twice the price...but batterys are getting old so i am going to have to get them repaired wont be cheap.... it all be pends what you need screw gun for if its for your job you need best you can afford... if its for part time use doesnt have to be best
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by GlenAnderson on Thu 29 Dec 2016, 8:30 pm

I strongly favour Metabo. Proper professional kit. I've a 4.5" grinder and a corded drill that were both 21st birthday presents. I'm now 47 and they're still going strong. I had a pair of Metabo cordless drills too, for a long time, until replacing the batteries became uneconomic. I was persuaded to try a pair of Hitachi ones about three years ago and, whilst they're ok, they lack the quality of the German ones and one of them is already suffering from clutch slipping issues. I really wish I'd bought one new Metabo rather than the two Hitachis.

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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by muttley1 on Sun 01 Jan 2017, 1:42 pm

I've a couple of old elu cordless drills and use dewalt ni cad batteries. These have proved spot on for general shed stuff, diy, drilling into concrete. Batteries fast charge in an hour too.

I've also a few garden strimmers with li ion batteries, I keep these charged overwinter but leave the ni cads half charged, both types have lasted a few years drama free.

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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by arrison on Sun 01 Jan 2017, 9:58 pm

Hilti and festool are the dogs bollocks, but expensive. Otherwise its makita or bosch blue for me. Wouldnt touch dewalt with a bargepole, last one I had didnt last 5 minutes, its all just black & decker anyway. Personally not a fan of cordless drills for masonry, I use a corded makita sds+ hammer drill with chisel function for that, and an 18v makita drill and impact wrench for everything else.
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by gopher on Sun 01 Jan 2017, 10:53 pm

Wolff sapphire drill -  Wrist breaking torque!
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by wornsprokets on Sun 01 Jan 2017, 11:17 pm

Hilti are best tools.... but there too expensive.... dad has hilti kango from 1990 and it stil works fine(not in best of shape). Heavy use tools on site its hilti.... but not screw guns as too expensive.. for me for screw gun be bosch blue or dewalt.... ive never heard lads on site complain about dewalt ....my sds cordless 32v hammer action dewalt drill has to be 10yrs old...got serious abuse on site only now batterys are starting to fail but i think batterys were reconditioned before as i didnt have it  from new . Now in construction it easier to hire in  heavy tools rather than repair them as they have to pass vibration tests.... (carpel tunnel can be caused from excess vibrating tools)  my work collegue has been affected by this...and i think its a factor in my shoulder /elbow/wrist/and in my finger tips( nerve damage) going few weeks ago... constant use of vibrating tools.... constant use as in all day use....not good
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by arrison on Mon 02 Jan 2017, 7:55 pm

@wornsprokets wrote:Hilti are best tools.... but there too expensive.... dad has hilti kango from 1990 and it stil works fine(not in best of shape). Heavy use tools on site its hilti.... but not screw guns as too expensive.. for me for screw gun be bosch blue or dewalt.... ive never heard lads on site complain about dewalt ....my sds cordless 32v hammer action dewalt drill has to be 10yrs old...got serious abuse on site only now batterys are starting to fail but i think batterys were reconditioned before as i didnt have it  from new . Now in construction it easier to hire in  heavy tools rather than repair them as they have to pass vibration tests.... (carpel tunnel can be caused from excess vibrating tools)  my work collegue has been affected by this...and i think its a factor in my shoulder /elbow/wrist/and in my finger tips( nerve damage) going few weeks ago... constant use of vibrating tools.... constant use as in all day use....not good

My dewalt cordless jigsaw was 3 months old when it needed a new trigger switch, 2 months after that the motor went and was replaced under warranty, then the charger went bang, then when the blade grip broke it went in the bin and I bought a makita. The dewalt drill I had needed a new trigger switch, then a new forward/reverse switch, then a new chuck, then the batterys went so it too got chucked and replaced with makita. Havent touched dewalt since
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by wornsprokets on Mon 02 Jan 2017, 8:16 pm

Hmm be interested to see where dewalt are being made now..... maybe parts could be from china or assembled there...  the cordless blue bosch jigsaw we have survived never gave trouble.... it got serious hard use.... lads never have had trouble with dewalt cordless screw guns or torque guns....
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Re: Tool Recommendation?

Post by stormbringer on Mon 02 Jan 2017, 8:50 pm

@ratatooie wrote:Any Matabo insights? I gather that they are German made.
Metabo. I've inherited a 40-years old hedge-cutter, running on 110VAC through a transformer. It's literally unkillable. I should know, because I have wielded this thing for (you guessed it) nearly 40 years.

Unfortunately, I do not think Metabo nowadays is this sort of quality. Definitely good stuff, but more like Bosch or Makita.

If I have the option (that is, the money at the time), I'll buy blue Bosch, AEG pro or Makita. Black&Decker (aka DeWalt) is not on my wish-list.

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