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wornsprokets
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Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by wornsprokets on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 12:49 pm

Has anyone used champion oil filters from halfrauds on their bikes, i found one at home i had for the fireblade , i think i heard they were not great and thats why i didnt use it, and used a hiflo oil filter on fireblade(1996)and cb. The filter wil fit either of my bikes mite use it on cb on next oil change
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by Beresford on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:22 pm

WS, oil filters vary a lot in quality and from all I have read, you are best to stick to just a few makes. Mobil, which are not readily available in europe, and K&N. However it just so happens that HiFlo are made by the same (japanese I believe ) factory that make the K&Ns, and to the same quality standards. K&N s sometimes leak around the welded-on end nut so I'd stick to HiFlos.
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by sullivj on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 4:56 pm

I use Hiflo. Never had an issue with those.
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by eternally_troubled on Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:27 pm

I think the problem with oil filters is that you won't be able to tell how good they are until a long time in the future when it's far too late to do anything about it.

I remember that when I compared a Honda original filter with a pattern one the paper inside the Honda one had many extra 'folds' in it suggesting a larger filter area hence maybe a finer filtration or maybe just less flow restriction?

(Also - I moved your topic to 'General'...)
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by jerryfudd on Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:30 pm

@Beresford wrote:WS, oil filters vary a lot in quality and from all I have read, you are best to stick to just a few makes. Mobil, which are not readily available in europe, and K&N. However it just so happens that HiFlo are made by the same (japanese I believe ) factory that make the K&Ns, and to the same quality standards. K&N s sometimes leak around the welded-on end nut so I'd stick to HiFlos.

+1 on the HiFlo though decided to try out the K&N on the last change although didn't use the nut.... will save that bonus for the removal.

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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by liverpool_f_ on Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:43 pm

My last K&N got impossibly stuck on. The nut didn't stand a chance. No idea how it got so tight. I only ever hand tighten them when I install them and only tighten more if there is a leak. 

I have no idea if a different brand would have been easier to remove under the same circumstances but I have heard reports of other getting their K&N filters getting stuck. Hiflo and K&N are both made by someone else, whose name I have forgotten so no doubt the Hiflo i just put on will be exactly the same
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by jerryfudd on Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:55 pm

I probably should get some sort of filter removal tool but as you say I also only do them hand tight so come off without issue, however if the dealers been at it I've had to resort to hammer and screwdriver persuasion Rolling Eyes
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Re: Champion oil filters good or bad

Post by Beresford on Mon 25 Jan 2016, 7:20 pm

Put them on hand tight. How you take them off doesn't really matter ( except for the mess !! ) The Honda filter is easily accessable but my Tiger has a similar - but smaller - filter which is surrounded by the sump casting and the only way to get at it to remove it, without one of those socket tool things was to ram a large screwdriver through it and lever !!
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