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Yaayyy...at last, and emulators.

Post by Beresford on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 5:47 pm


The CB has been in bits for around a month and finally got it back together and out today for a test run. I've been using the Tiger recently and the contrast is extreme. The CB feels really responsive by comparison, but quite harsh on the rough roads which are the norm here.
So I have been thinking that maybe I'd try cartridge emulators to smoothe out the ride without ruining the handling which would happen by just fitting softer springs.

Emulators have been popular in the US but only recently have I seen them available in the UK.
Anybody on here ever tried them? Do they work as advertised?
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Post by badseeds on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 5:59 pm

I too have heard great things about emulators, especially on older bikes. I'd be interested in knowing more.....
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Post by Beresford on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 6:03 pm

I saw the YSS ones mentioned in MCN, being sold by Wemoto, but these people
http://www.brooksbarn.co.uk/searchresults.aspx?searchterm=fork+valves+yss
are considerably cheaper for the same thing.
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Post by skyrider on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 6:33 pm

strange looking things whereabouts do you fit them
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Post by Beresford on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 6:48 pm

In the front forks.
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Post by skyrider on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 6:58 pm

if it gives a more comfy ride its got to be worth a try
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Post by badseeds on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 7:00 pm

I was never sure about YSS, but a bloke I know who has ridden an old CB250G5 everyday for last 6 years (a couple of top end rebuilds), has them fitted and they're working very well. They've stood up to winters and happily doing their job.
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Post by skyrider on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 7:07 pm

do we know how much for a set
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Post by Beresford on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 8:20 pm

RaceTech, (the inventors) charge $170 in the US I believe. For the YSS ones Wemoto price is £80 and BrookesBarn price is £60.08
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Post by skyrider on Sun 20 Dec 2015, 8:50 pm

do you fancy a dabble Smile
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Post by Beresford on Mon 21 Dec 2015, 12:16 pm

Let's see. Just recently. new tyres - £117, new pads - £24.40, new front sprocket - £7. Sundry S/H parts - about £50, MOT and road tax due. Hmmmm.........maybe in the New Year sometime.
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Post by skyrider on Mon 21 Dec 2015, 7:50 pm

yes you could be right it adds up Neutral
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Post by pedro on Sun 03 Jan 2016, 1:32 pm

I was looking at these a few months ago having read about them in PS magazine , they fitted them to a ZZR600 . in the end I didn't do anything about it and forgot about them .
I was going to order a set of Hagon Progressive Springs in the next couple of days or so and just saw your post this morning which is making me think again .
Can't see the CB5 specifically mentioned on any of the websites I've looked at - does anybody know the size to order for it ?
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Post by Beresford on Sun 03 Jan 2016, 4:48 pm

I think you take the top cap off and measure the bore of the fork tube. Then go for whatever will fit into the tube. They are universal and adjustable, so you can play around with the settings. I don't think that it's necessary to get different springs, but a lighter fork oil is probably a good idea.
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Post by pedro on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 4:52 am

Spent a bit of time trying to find out which emulator would fit CB5 . Emailed BrookBarns and WeMoto for YSS and Race Tech for theirs . After two emails , not a thing from BrookBarns . WeMoto were helpful ,they checked presumably with YSS and thought the fit would be the same as for the VF/FT500 but weren't certain and couldn't guarantee it . Race Tech were very good , reply came 12 hours after my email was sent , which considering California is 9 hours behind CET was brilliant .
The guy I was dealing with at Race Tech was very helpful , wanted to know spring diameter , bike weight, rider weight , sort of riding done ( road , race ,touring etc.) and ride required ( firm , plush etc. ) and then came back with emulator needed and set up . Only problem is their stuff isn't cheap .
After a bit of thought ( at least 10 seconds ! ) decided I've got to try these things and I've ordered Race Tech emulator and spring set up from the US . Now how do I justify this to the wife ?
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Post by stormbringer on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 6:09 am

pedro wrote:After a bit of thought ( at least 10 seconds ! ) decided I've got to try these things and I've ordered Race Tech emulator and spring set up from the US . Now how do I justify this to the wife ?

Reading along here, interested...

You don't justify it to her. You fail to mention your purchase of such stuff - and quietly let it slip under the radar.

Once you get them installed, I certainly hope you will report back here for all of us to learn about their function.
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Post by ratatooie on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 10:44 am

stormbringer wrote:

pedro wrote:After a bit of thought ( at least 10 seconds ! ) decided I've got to try these things and I've ordered Race Tech emulator and spring set up from the US . Now how do I justify this to the wife ?



Reading along here, interested...

You don't justify it to her. You fail to mention your purchase of such stuff - and quietly let it slip under the radar.

Once you get them installed, I certainly hope you will report back here for all of us to learn about their function.

'Tis easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission!
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Post by pedro on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 11:00 am

Just kidding with that bit guys , having been married for nearly fifty years I've kinda got the hang of it !!
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Post by eternally_troubled on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 12:30 pm

pedro wrote:Just kidding with that bit guys , having been married for nearly fifty years I've kinda got the hang of it !!


Yes - she's used to you by now :)
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Post by pedro on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 1:13 pm

Ain't that the truth . Is that the voice of experience speaking there ET ?
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Post by ratatooie on Fri 15 Jan 2016, 2:45 pm

pedro wrote:then came back with emulator needed and set up . Only problem is their stuff isn't cheap .
After a bit of thought ( at least 10 seconds ! ) decided I've got to try these things and I've ordered Race Tech emulator and spring set up from the US . Now how do I justify this to the wife ?

Which one did you go for exactly so that we can do the same? Do you have a link?

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Post by pedro on Sat 16 Jan 2016, 5:43 am

Look on eBay for FLEKS3585 . This is a kit for one of the Harley models but I am told that the emulator and springs will fit the CB5 .

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