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Stiff chain links

Post by wornsprokets on Sat 07 Nov 2015, 6:42 pm

So put wheels back on cb with new bt45 s   so everything fine adjust chain to correct tension,  so i spin wheel it loose then tightens up (chain) , stiff chain links so, balls! ive spent enough this month  ive no chain maker, chain breaker Evil or Very Mad plus new chain, no wear in sprokets
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Re: Stiff chain links

Post by jerryfudd on Sat 07 Nov 2015, 7:58 pm

It's possible the chain has a tight spot and it's too tightly tensioned?

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Post by wornsprokets on Sat 07 Nov 2015, 8:14 pm

I check tomoro dan maybe i did somthing wrong , (trying to do it outside in between showers of rain) chain goes slack then half turn tighens up completely, i am use to  adjusting chains, chain was on from previous owner,  this bike was laid up for years, also chain hasnt a riveted link its like a clip one u could take off with out chain breaker?
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Post by skyrider on Sat 07 Nov 2015, 9:20 pm

I would sooner have a split link but I don't think the chains last as long on bigger bikes Neutral
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Post by wornsprokets on Sat 07 Nov 2015, 11:14 pm

Only time i saw link like that was on my tzr 125, not a 500?
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Post by teamster1975 on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 9:22 am

If it's got a split link fitted why don't you take the chain off and work through all the links to find the tight spot? You might be able to free it up if you work some oil into it.
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Post by wornsprokets on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 9:32 am

Yeah i was thinking of a basin of oil and put chain into it for few days.mite give it a go before i order new chain
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Re: Stiff chain links

Post by skyrider on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 4:02 pm

I use link life on my split link chains brilliant stuff
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Post by ashcroc on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 6:49 pm

Leaving a bike sittng around can kill the chain if it's not well lubed & there's even the slightest bit of moisture in the air.

One trick from older bikes where split links were common was to clean the chain up with paraffin /diesel then soak in molten parrafin wax(candle wax) over night until it solidifies & wipe off the excess. Not sure what good it'd do to an O or X ring chain but it shouldn't harm them.

The only split link chains I've seen listed for the cb500 have been dirt cheap so you might be better off just getting a new one when funds permit.
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Post by wornsprokets on Sun 08 Nov 2015, 7:01 pm

Yes i think ur right ashcroc
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Post by wornsprokets on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 4:08 pm

So i took off the chain today and cleaned it with wd40  so i put chain in basin of engine oil for couple of days see what its like then Rolling Eyes. Its a d.i.d chain but it aint an o rubber ring one. Going to get chain maker breaker tomorrow for 30 euro. See next few days how  chain is maybe order one then. What chain would u guys afro recommend
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Post by stormbringer on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 7:21 pm

@wornsprokets wrote:what chain would u guys afro  recommend
Mine's a DID 525VX. It's done 37.000 kilometers by now and I'm thinking of going for 50.000 km next season. So far, no worries - you can hardly see any wear on the sprockets and chain has needed adjustment like three or four times. Mind you, I'm using a Loobman oiler.
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Post by stormbringer on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 7:27 pm

@wornsprokets wrote:...but it aint an o rubber ring one.


Got any idea how much your chain kit's done? Knackered?

Replace chain kit - not just chain. With something O- or X-ring-like. There's a reason it's called 'a kit'. Your cost/hassle per mile will get smaller Smile
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Post by wornsprokets on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 7:41 pm

Ah yeah very little wear on sprokets. But change them all bad idea just chain . Still  adjustment in chain
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Post by skyrider on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 7:48 pm

when I replace the chain I always replace the sprockets as well it pays off in the end Smile
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Post by ashcroc on Mon 09 Nov 2015, 8:50 pm

Ordinarily I'd advise changing chain & sprockets together but you may be able to get away with just the duff chain dependant on how much it's been stretched.
It's a little different (mainly due to having a split link making life easier) but I do it all the time on my MTB (I run 2 chains concurrently & replace at 5% stretch). Measure 10 links of the old chain & compare it againgst the new one. If it's below 10% difference, you can get away with just replacing the chain.
The new chain will stretch to accommodate the old sprokets reducing it's life but it could be worth the tradeoff if the sprokets aren't too far gone.
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Post by wornsprokets on Fri 13 Nov 2015, 5:49 pm

Wel i took the chain out of basin of engine oil it seems to have loosened up the links nicely, this is where its a major pain in hole  that i havent my shed/man cave built ,  pissing rain today, maybe i fit chain back on tommorow and see if its still same  ive a jt sprokets and xring chain to go on if its scrap.
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Post by skyrider on Fri 13 Nov 2015, 6:23 pm

yea always good to have spare parts in stock (its been crap over here too)

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Post by Guest on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 3:34 pm

Dave from Delboys Garage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxD3qdD7LhE) claims that front sprockets wear faster as they have less teeth so must wear more then the rear one for the same mileage. He only changes the front sprocket if all else is fine. I think there's sense in replacing a sprocket to save the chain. Sprockets are not so expensive.
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Post by Jameshambleton on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 3:50 pm

Werner Van der Straten wrote:Dave from Delboys Garage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxD3qdD7LhE) claims that front sprockets wear faster as they have less teeth so must wear more then the rear one for the same mileage. He only changes the front sprocket if all else is fine. I think there's sense in replacing a sprocket to save the chain. Sprockets are not so expensive.

I did exactly this, and this was my front sprocket with only 27k miles done on it, rear appears to be fine though but this is an OEM sprocket that came with the bike then new.
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Post by wornsprokets on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 6:15 pm

Very good video, good tips too, seen good few videos of this guy seem to know his stuff Surprised
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Post by Beresford on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:04 pm

@wornsprokets wrote:Very good video, good tips too, seen good few videos of this guy seem to know his stuff Surprised

He appreciates a good bike too. Tho' that poor Tiger must be dead embarrassed with all the black lumps he's put on it !!!
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Re: Stiff chain links

Post by Beresford on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:20 pm

I've just ebayed for front sprockets and there seems to be a wild variation in price. From £7.95 delivered for JT Sunbeam(?), to £20 for Renthal. Are the JT ones good ?

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Post by Guest on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:27 pm

@Beresford wrote:He appreciates a good bike too. Tho' that poor Tiger must be dead embarrassed with all the black lumps he's put on it !!!



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Re: Stiff chain links

Post by Jameshambleton on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:35 pm

@Beresford wrote:I've just ebayed for front sprockets and there seems to be a wild variation in price. From £7.95 delivered for JT Sunbeam(?), to £20 for Renthal. Are the JT ones good ?

I'm running a JT front sprocket on my cb5 and I've just put them on my cbf125. The link for the cb5 one is here. The ones for my cbf125 came from m&p/busters and having a quick google search they seems to be good quality sprockets that are made for oem such as honda but to their specs.

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