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liverpool_f_
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Brake disc preferences

Post by liverpool_f_ on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 6:38 pm

Hi All,

I am getting a new front disc for the bike and noticed the OE Honda, EBC and Brembo discs were all approximately the same price at $75-$85 (sorry, no GBP symbol on my keyboard)

I know they are all probably good choices but wondered what peoples preferences were. I guessed the Honda OE may actually be made by Brembo since I have a Brembo caliper on my bike but I don't know. I love EBC pads and put them on all my vehicles but never used the discs.

Anyone used any of these or had good experience with no brand cheapo's. (I never like to cheap out on brakes)

Thanks
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by wornsprokets on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 7:10 pm

Havent bought a disc for cb, but i did for my fireblade it was ebc prolite very good. Ebc are good brand cant say if its better than others.
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by jchesshyre on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 11:31 pm

I assumed the OEM disc was Brembo but it's actually Sunstar. I've always used them with no problems. EBC are no doubt fine, although actually more expensive. No idea about Brembo but I'm thinking of getting one next time I change mine.
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by ashcroc on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 1:00 am

I'm getting EBC prolite on my rear to match the EBC HH sintered pads I'm putting in. The way I see it while OE discs are good, there's been at least 20 years of r&d since they were chosen for the bike.
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Post by liverpool_f_ on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 12:04 pm

That is interesting that the oe discs are Sunstar. I had a look to see if I could find any branded as such for less than the Honda branded ones but they seem to have very little presence in the UK so I didn't find any. On the US sites I found that stocked their gear, It seemed to be expensive stuff. They are also a big supplier of OE Sprockets to the Japanese manufacturers apparently.

As jchesshyre pointed out though, the EBC ones are more expensive at $130-ish. I am not sure if the extra $45 is worth it or not. That would almost cover the cost of a pair of Ebc pads and HEL braided hoses. If anyone is interested my local Honda dealer is selling discs on ebay for $83. I think that is probably cheaper that most dealers.
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by ashcroc on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 1:37 pm

A quick Google has found EBC for about £100 Including delivery but that's still £15 more than Tippets are throwing OE ones out for.

Dependant on how the rear fares I might get one to match when the time comes. Without any real world reviews of them on our bikes it's a bit of a punt on whether the weight saving & different drill pattern are worth the extra expense.
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by teamster1975 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 12:44 pm

Always used EBC since the original discs wore out, never had a problem and the brakes are very good with EBC sintered pads.
On a side note make sure you keep the sliders lubed with red rubber grease or you'll get uneven pad wear (apologies if you already do this!)
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by Celt500 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 1:09 pm

@teamster1975 wrote:
On a side note make sure you keep the sliders lubed with red rubber grease or you'll get uneven pad wear (apologies if you already do this!)

Is there anything else that can be used instead of red rubber grease? Can't find any locally.
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Post by teamster1975 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 1:14 pm

@Celt500 wrote:
@teamster1975 wrote:
On a side note make sure you keep the sliders lubed with red rubber grease or you'll get uneven pad wear (apologies if you already do this!)


Is there anything else that can be used instead of red rubber grease? Can't find any locally.

You can use copper slip but it's not too kind on the rubber bushes. Here's a link on ebay for the red rubber grease if they'll deliver to you, not bad for the price & it'll last years!
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by eternally_troubled on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 1:40 pm



Silicone grease is fine:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/161840880912?adgroupid=13585920426&hlpht=true&hlpv=2&rlsatarget=kwd-123671534706&adtype=pla&ff3=1&lpid=122&poi=&ul_noapp=true&limghlpsr=true&ff19=0&device=c&chn=ps&campaignid=207297426&crdt=0&ff12=67&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff14=122&viphx=1&ops=true&ff13=80

http://www.autosessive.com/products/60313/bosch-superfit-brake-lubricant-100ml?gclid=CIr62ej3wcgCFQQFwwod_DkONw


or (probably cheaper), plumbers silicone grease:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008JBGDS0/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=569136327&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B008KOSWDU&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0Q0NE7794VY0429K0R2B
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by liverpool_f_ on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 3:36 pm

nice tip on the greasing the sliders teamster. I was just going to swap out the pads and discs. I will order up Red rubber grease. It is always handy to have this stuff going spare for the next job i.e the back brakes!
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by teamster1975 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 4:11 pm

@liverpool_f_ wrote:nice tip on the greasing the sliders teamster. I was just going to swap out the pads and discs. I will order up Red rubber grease. It is always handy to have this stuff going spare for the next job i.e the back brakes!

It's worth putting a blob behind the rubber boot on the front master cylinder as well, so far it seems to have solved that spring rusting and snapping off the last couple of coils (flickering brake light!)
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by jim157 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 6:52 pm

I bought a tub of the Fuchs red rubber grease a while back, it works wonders on sliding calipers.  It's also really handy for other rubbery stuff, such as the lugs on bodywork.
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by badseeds on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 10:33 pm

As ashcroc says, Tippetts are knocking out OE discs £89. I bought one 18 months ago thinking they'd go quick as they fit other models like the ST1100 and VFR750. I ain't needed it yet....


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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by Celt500 on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 12:03 pm

Anyone know if the disc off the new CB500 would fit?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-HONDA-CB500-F-A-CB500FA-REAR-DISC-/291588832828?hash=item43e40c7e3c
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by liverpool_f_ on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 12:08 pm

I really don't like the idea of used discs, pads etc. Especially as they are always described as ''good.'' I bet most of them are pretty finished. That one might be ok being from a 2014 bike but you never can tell until it shows up at your house
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by badseeds on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 12:47 pm

@Celt500 wrote:Anyone know if the disc off the new CB500 would fit?

No. The mounting holes are different.

New CB500:


Our one:
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Re: Brake disc preferences

Post by eternally_troubled on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 12:59 pm

Used discs can be OK, but only if you get them cheap.  You can clean them up pretty easily using brake cleaner and measure the thickness at a few points around the disc with a micrometer.

A lot of these used discs that come up for sale are from breakers - so they might be almost knackered, but equally they might not... this is why you don't want to pay too much money.

Pads - I wouldn't buy used ones unless I knew where they had come from and what has happened to them, but then, new pads for the CB500 aren't that expensive, for example:

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/cb_500_v/97-98/picture/pads_front_brenta_standard_gg_type/

Twelve quid plus postage.
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Post by Celt500 on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 1:20 pm

@Badseeds

It was the rear one I meant, the rear one on ours is also 4 bolt.
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Post by badseeds on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 1:49 pm

@Celt500 wrote:@Badseeds

It was the rear one I meant, the rear one on ours is also 4 bolt.

D'oh! In that case, I dunno. Possibly. I know the front caliper is a straight swap.....

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