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top tips for removing the header bolts?

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by eternally_troubled on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 1:42 pm

@skyrider wrote:when I put spark plugs I  only put them in little more than finger tight anyway

Yep, same here. If you change (or at least, inspect) the spark plugs at the suggested interval (2 years max) you shouldn't need to put any grease on them. IME they only tend to get stuck if they are not looked at for donkeys years or you do them up too tight.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by jerryfudd on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 1:46 pm

.......or they get cross threaded on the way in Shocked 

(also moved this thread to the 'workshop' section rather than 'wanted')
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Jameshambleton on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 8:58 pm

I found some images of mine!!! No these didn't break and yes I used a normal halfords ratchet spanner. 
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by skyrider on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 9:08 pm

they look like they have lived there for a while you were lucky to get those off
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by skyrider on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 9:11 pm

is that the shiny new can that's going on
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by eternally_troubled on Wed 07 Oct 2015, 12:34 pm

You were lucky that you got them off!
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by skyrider on Wed 07 Oct 2015, 10:34 pm

just been looking at an impact stud removal tool made by laser in the machine mart catalogue has anyone tried one they are advertised at  around £22 and look a bit like a drill chuck with a 1/2 drive for a ratchet

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Guest on Thu 08 Oct 2015, 9:23 am

For a week every day when warm liberal dose of penetrating oil such as plus gas, then gently with small spanner/ratchet they undid. One stud came out as well which I replaced with a new one. TIP: when tightening them up add copper grease and don't under do it. I ended up with a loose exhaust on the motorway... was brilliantly loud though!
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by geoffnorfolk on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 6:07 pm

Years ago, they always used to use brass nuts for securing the header pipes and they never seized.............. wonder why they abandoned it.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Beresford on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 7:52 pm

@geoffnorfolk wrote:Years ago, they always used to use brass nuts for securing the header pipes and they never seized.............. wonder why they abandoned it.

Minis and MG Midgets certainly used them. There is no problem getting domed ones on ebay.
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Post by skyrider on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 7:54 pm

that could be the way to go, start using using them again Smile
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Beresford on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:38 pm

What size are they ?
M6 or M8 ?
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Beresford on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:52 pm

@skyrider wrote:that could be the way to go, start using using them again Smile


Or these lovely things in stainless steel

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by skyrider on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 9:00 pm

they look sound you could have them colour coded to your bike Very Happy how much do they come at
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Beresford on Fri 09 Oct 2015, 10:42 pm

Quite expensive, about £2 each.

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by sullivj on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:48 am

If I remember, the OEM ones weren't cheap either.

I would be worried that the 'Chinese' ones, might not stand up to the heat. If you do try them, do let us know how they hold up.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by davebike500 on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 10:33 am

Remember Stainless electrilitly (SP) corrodes to most other metals brass copper and allemimum are as I remember the worst

Stainless also both work and heat hardens so not recommend fro exhaust studs  tends to snap and then be extremely difficult to drill think diamond drill ! 

Best stick to Honda's original MS studs with either original or brass nuts
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by eternally_troubled on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 7:24 pm

I reckon brass nuts sound like the way forward, might have to try them next time I whip the downpipes off.

As I recall the studs are threaded M6.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by skyrider on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 7:58 pm

if that will stop the nuts seizing that's a bonous
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by geoffnorfolk on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 6:25 pm

They sell domed brass nuts in all sizes on Ebay...... quite cheap.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by liverpool_f_ on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 2:44 pm

As far as heating the parts is concerned, is a heat gun sufficient or do you need a blow tourch?

Also, has anyone bought an electric impact wrench, corded or cordless? I have no facilities for air tools but an impact wrench would be awesomely useful. I always wondered if the electric ones would have enough torque to do for automotive uses on old corroded vehicle parts (like my less than pristine cb!) That will be my next power tool investment if anyone can recommend them.
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by Beresford on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm

@liverpool_f_ wrote:As far as heating the parts is concerned, is a heat gun sufficient or do you need a blow tourch?

Also, has anyone bought an electric impact wrench, corded or cordless? I have no facilities for air tools but an impact wrench would be awesomely useful. I always wondered if the electric ones would have enough torque to do for automotive uses on old corroded vehicle parts (like my less than pristine cb!) That will be my next power tool investment if anyone can recommend them.


I got one of these on the bay - about £22.50 at the time, a few months ago.

It's certainly effective for shifting old rusted up wheel studs and the like. Although the CB exhaust studs being only 6mm, might just snap with it if they are corroded badly.

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by sullivj on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:04 pm

When I heated mine, I just used engine heat...

Rode it back from work (12 miles)
Sprayed it with Plus Gas
Did the same for a week, and then just undid them with a ratchet ring spanner.

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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by sullivj on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:06 pm

Ps, I have a 12v impact wrench.. It couldn't turn a bolt into a tub of warm butter, let alone remove a wheel nut!
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Re: top tips for removing the header bolts?

Post by wornsprokets on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 7:40 pm

I was looking at a compressor in aldi for 109 euro,  and an air  impact gun for 25 euro. Air impact gun might be way to go. For engine bolts like front engine p--x of a bolt. Dont know about header bolts mite snap em

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