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New brake pads

Post by Guest on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 4:07 pm

Hello

Found this article and would have liked some opinions as to it:

1) After mounting the new pads, ride around a bit and apply the brakes
often but not too hard, to make sure they're in place correctly.

2) Now find a long, fairly straight section of road where you can
safely travel about 35 MPH. Select a gear which is about halfway to
redline. Drag your brake (do the front and rear separately) as you
apply throttle. Keep doing this until you feel the brakes start to
fade. You'll probably smell them about this time too.

3) Get off the brake, speed up to about 70, and then brake hard again
using only that brake. Repeat one more time.

4) Continue riding without using that brake to allow it to cool completely.
What's this all about? I'm told that the process of getting the pads
very hot (called "green-fading") bakes away the adhesives near the
surface of the pad which interfere with full braking. As the pads
wear, the adhesives will recede naturally after the initial
baking. I've used this procedure every time I replace my pads, and
have noticed vastly improved brakes each time.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by Jameshambleton on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 5:27 pm

What brake pads do you use as I'm going to be getting some "EBC FA209/2HH" soon and with you saying to make the brakes fade that might be a problem if you use HH rated brake pads?
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Re: New brake pads

Post by ashcroc on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 7:26 pm

Doing that will bed the pads into the shape of the disc so they're in full contact.  It also puts some pad residue onto the disc if you've cleaned or put a new one on which helps them work.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by badseeds on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 8:12 pm

This is exactly what I do and my riding dictates that my brakes are tip-top. You'll be fine Very Happy
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Re: New brake pads

Post by eternally_troubled on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:46 am

I'm not sure about the adhesive thing, but it certainly helps to bed the new pads into the shape of the disc, which can only help the braking.

I suspect that this process happens anyway, as you use the brakes.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by Ayrton F on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:04 am

I've always just taken it handy for the first 100 miles or so on a new set of pads. Didnt realise there was a step-by-step process for bedding them in however. Does anybody know if it is much more effective ?
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Re: New brake pads

Post by jerryfudd on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 11:27 am

likewise..... I just take it easy for as long as possible
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Re: New brake pads

Post by stormbringer on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 12:45 pm

Ayrton F wrote:Does anybody know if it is much more effective ?
You get your brakes up to full performance faster - but it'll cost you some petrol, some tire tread and a bit of brake disc. I don't think your brakes become much better at stopping the bike though.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by geewhizz on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:34 pm

Apologies for going slightly off topic, but it's been bothering me since riding an r1 of similar vintage, my cb5 front brake seems pitiful compared to the r1's . I put this down to the r1 having a more powerful set up but maybe it's because I've never bed pads in before..? I have a braided line, recently bled etc all in good condition. Is it just that our bikes generally have weaker braking power than sports bikes perhaps.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by ashcroc on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 8:55 pm

The twin discs on the r1 will always out perform the single on the cb5.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by eternally_troubled on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 11:37 am

Are you pulling the lever hard enough? Smile

Seriously, it may just be that the brake ratio (master clylinder/slave cylinder ratio) was different on the R1 so you had more 'feel' than on the CB5 - giving the impression of more/better 'brakes'.
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Re: New brake pads

Post by wornsprokets on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 7:32 pm

I think front brake on cb is good(brembo standard line too) obviously not as good as my fireblade as it has braided lines and double discs and calipers alot heavier and more power needs better brakes. U have to remember those first r1s were wild , lot guys wrote them off, a friend of mine( very experienced)  bent rear subframe in L shape after it spat him off. He never had that problem with hayabusa. Also them blue spot calipers on r1 were amazing, so powerful
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Re: New brake pads

Post by stormbringer on Wed 26 Aug 2015, 5:58 am

geewhizz wrote:Apologies for going slightly off topic, but it's been bothering me since riding an r1 of similar vintage, my cb5 front brake seems pitiful compared to the r1's . I put this down to the r1 having a more powerful set up but maybe it's because I've never bed pads in before..?
Try exchanging the cb5's OE pads for new sintered ones. I've found that the amount of 'bite' you get depends very much on your choice of brake pads.
Using Vesrah sintered pads, I can do something approaching a stoppie using one finger only. Who'd need more than that?
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Re: New brake pads

Post by geewhizz on Mon 31 Aug 2015, 11:01 am

I've got ebc sintered pads on at the mo, i do have a short lever so maybe the loss of leverage has something to do with it

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