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Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by ar1 on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 5:54 pm

I am looking to by another 500 for my stable,which make equals, or betters the cb
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Basil Moss on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 6:20 pm

Yes.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by stevew on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 6:26 pm

Can't think of much any other 500 can do better.  But if you want to be picky.
1/ a 500cc Maxi scoot 'may' have more storage
2/ very modern 500's 'may, be a bit more economical

OTOH our bikes are more powerfull that all the other 500s including the new CB500 and NC700 and 650 Deauville.  Oh and the GS500 and the ER500................and on it goes Surprised
Have more torque, Handle as well and a hell of a lot cheaper. 

So really a old CB500 with a top box will do most everything well.  Strip it off and you have a sports bike that will confuse most 600cc 'real' sports bike riders.  Got to ride the CB well though.  Immensely satisfying when you get it right.

Just buy one Twisted Evil
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Beresford on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 6:31 pm

I believe the Kawasaki GPZ500 is worth a look - the later one with twin front discs. It has similar power to the CB500 so should be nippy. The Suzuki 500 is dull and Yamaha didn't seem to have anything comparable except for the Virago which was a cruiser.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by ar1 on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 6:43 pm

Thanks guys, i thought as much the same as you, thing is the other 500s are not a lot of money and can pick up one for £500-£700, as for power i do not want any more i opened the throttle wide by accident in a low gear and the bloody thing stood up, i was not expecting that, the bike has the same power and less weight than my 850 commando, cheers thanks for your input i have only covered 300 miles on her and apart from the crap rear drum and hard ride the thing is wonderfull and no need to get the spanners out every time you use her unlike my old 1970 triumph, cheers have a good weekend.

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by sullivj on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 7:17 pm

Glad you're enjoying her ar1. Sounds like a great buy.

Get the rear brakes apart to see what's going on. They should be effective, but not amazing. I would imagine they're on the original shoes at that mileage. Maybe worth replacing.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Basil Moss on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 8:25 pm

I love it when I open the throttle wide by accident in a low gear... Twisted Evil
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by badseeds on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 11:03 pm

I've ridden a GPZ500, an ER-5 and a GS500. My personal opinion is that the CB500 is the best of the lot. It's all the bike you actually need.
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Post by stevew on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 11:20 pm

Yeah same here.  Problem is the Kwaker looks 'trick' and therefore peeps think it's better Rolling Eyes
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Beresford on Fri 21 Nov 2014, 11:28 pm

My major complaint agin the CB500 is that the wheels are damnable difficult to clean !!  Laughing
MCN says nice things about the Kawasaki
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/bikereviews/searchresults/bike-reviews/kawasaki/kawasaki-gpz500s--1987--2004/

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by sullivj on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 6:51 am

@Beresford wrote:My major complaint agin the CB500 is that the wheels are damnable difficult to clean !!  Laughing
I agree... I find it easier to clean them properly when they're off the bike

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by stevew on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:17 am

@Beresford wrote:
MCN says nice things about the Kawasaki


Mmm, doesn't mean much 'cos it also says nice things about the big beemer GS Twisted Evil
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Post by badseeds on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 9:45 am

@stevew wrote:Mmm, doesn't mean much 'cos it also says nice things about the big beemer GS Twisted Evil

Have you ridden a BMW GS? I have, before they were popular. This is my GS in 2002.


I was even man enough to take it off-road.

With on-road tyres. It ended inevitably.


It was such a laugh, it got me fired from a job I hated after I rode it into the warehouse and did a burnout.


And I'm still using that shitty blue topbox, 16 years and over 300,000 miles later.






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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by teamster1975 on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 10:27 am

@sullivj wrote:I agree... I find it easier to clean them properly when they're off the bike

What do you use to clean the wheels sully? I've always gone with wd40 on a rag (which isn't great but it gets the ground in crud off).

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by muttley1 on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 4:30 pm

Wheel cleaning ; wd 40 it is, then PJ1 on the discs just in case I got overkeen. Got some engine/oil cleaning wipes from Lidl recently and these work well on the rims.

I've owned a GS500 and, although it didn't last it was ok, lots of tlc or prone to rust, very mechanical. Handling on Pirellis was awful. Had a go on a gpz500 and that was fine, quite revvy and looked good with its twin pipes. The er500 is a slightly detuned version with more legroom than the cb5, there was also an en500, custom version...
The cb5 does everything pretty well, some things very well, all you'll need.

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by ar1 on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 6:21 pm

Thanks guys, what is your take on replacement pipes and cans, which is the best for performance and cost, and do not need re jetting?

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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by sullivj on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:10 pm

@teamster1975 wrote:
@sullivj wrote:I agree... I find it easier to clean them properly when they're off the bike

What do you use to clean the wheels sully? I've always gone with wd40 on a rag (which isn't great but it gets the ground in crud off).

Autoglyms 'clean wheels' and a small brush. Don't leave it on for more than 2 mins, so work fast. 

Then rinse well, dry, dry with the compressor, and then apply autoglym 'alloy wheel seal' and buff when dry. This makes them MUCH easier to clean next time.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by jerryfudd on Sat 22 Nov 2014, 8:19 pm

personally I wouldn't put WD40 anywhere near the wheels too much chance getting it on the pads/discs..... I use 'wonder wheels' can get it from halfords great stuff can really feel that active ingredient on your hands and wouldn't advise getting it near an open wound lol
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Basil Moss on Sun 23 Nov 2014, 12:02 pm

@badseeds wrote:
@stevew wrote:Mmm, doesn't mean much 'cos it also says nice things about the big beemer GS Twisted Evil

Have you ridden a BMW GS? I have, before they were popular. This is my GS in 2002.


I was even man enough to take it off-road.

With on-road tyres. It ended inevitably.


It was such a laugh, it got me fired from a job I hated after I rode it into the warehouse and did a burnout.


And I'm still using that shitty blue topbox, 16 years and over 300,000 miles later.







This is wonderful...
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by ashcroc on Sun 23 Nov 2014, 4:02 pm

@ar1 wrote:Thanks guys, what is your take on replacement pipes and cans, which is the best for performance and cost, and do not need re jetting?
There are plenty of cans out there that state they don't need a rejet (with the baffle in). 
I've only used a fuel can which worked well & had a nice roar & pop on deceleration. You'll have to ask jerryfudd what the plugs were like though as I stacked it before I had a chance to check if the mixture was ok.

As for downpipes, I think most peeps plump for Motad though I've noticed Delkevic also make a set out of 304 stainless for less. There is another set I've seen floating around on the bay but it doesn't appear to have the mounting bracket near where the can fits.

Think I'll most likely be going for the Delkevic ones myself as soon as I decide which can I want.  So far I've narrowed it down to Delkevic, Fuel or Beowulf. The last 2 offer a club discount which is nice.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by jerryfudd on Sun 23 Nov 2014, 5:02 pm

The Beowulf link pipe looks much better than the Fuel one I took off - mainly as it has a welded loop for the drain pipes



Not sure what it's like on the bike and even though I have it wont know for awhile yet however I have one fitted to the CBF and couldn't rate it highly enough although expensive at £180 delivered.

I had looked at the Simmi as that's what the racing boys use and well priced at £125. I was a little put off in the end that they bought in link pipes rather than make their own as Beowulf do (and they were out of stock so couldn't supply at the time anyway) and that they can't do a baffled road legal less than 400mm where as the Beo is 380mm.

Haven't had the the plugs out the engine yet to tell what the mix was like with the Fuel can as Ashcroc says.


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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Gonzumzum on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 11:26 am

@badseeds wrote:
@stevew wrote:Mmm, doesn't mean much 'cos it also says nice things about the big beemer GS Twisted Evil

Have you ridden a BMW GS? I have, before they were popular. This is my GS in 2002.


I was even man enough to take it off-road.

With on-road tyres. It ended inevitably.


It was such a laugh, it got me fired from a job I hated after I rode it into the warehouse and did a burnout.


And I'm still using that shitty blue topbox, 16 years and over 300,000 miles later.







So much respect for the topbox love!
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by stormbringer on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 1:58 pm

@badseeds wrote:
It was such a laugh, it got me fired from a job I hated after I rode it into the warehouse and did a burnout.


Ahahaha Smile Of course it'd have to be you doing that. Grrreat!
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Gonzumzum on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 2:57 pm

Try to beat this:
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I have one of the same brand but a different model.
Pretty happy with it.

You can check it here.
http://www.cb500club.net/t2833-tyre-pressure-when-fully-loaded


When i was searching for it, i found this to be the best relation between price and quality.
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Re: Is the cb500 really the best of the 500s

Post by Beresford on Tue 25 Nov 2014, 4:16 pm

@Gonzumzum wrote:Try to beat this:
https://www.dan-moto.com/DM_INT/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18_19_173&products_id=807&zenid=n6vdlb524ej7ie2jmu4v3hf2l7

I have one of the same brand but a different model.
Pretty happy with it.

You can check it here.
http://www.cb500club.net/t2833-tyre-pressure-when-fully-loaded


When i was searching for it, i found this to be the best relation between price and quality.
I wondered about this range. I first saw them ( cheapest of everything on offer ) on ebay "from China".
What is the quality like ?

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