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Llewelyn1965
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oil filter fiddling

Post by Llewelyn1965 on Fri 14 Nov 2014, 11:03 pm

Previous owner supposedly did oil/filter change just before I bought the bike a couple of months ago. Recently noticed oil leak coming from the filter seal. Today I bought a filter tool (one of those giant socket tools you fit to a ratchet). Tried to use it to tighten up the filter and I can't get it on the filter because the exhaust pipes are in the way. I think I managed to tighten it up enough by sheer muscle power, but is it really necessary to remove the down pipes to change a filter or is my set-up wrong somehow?

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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by sullivj on Fri 14 Nov 2014, 11:37 pm

Perhaps try a strap wrench from the side. You don't need to remove the down pipes. It only needs to be hand tight anyway...
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by ashcroc on Sat 15 Nov 2014, 1:08 am

Some oil filters are deeper than others & can cause clearance issues with the end on remaval tools.

Assuming the filter isn't a dirt cheap shoddy fitting one & the seal has been lubricated with a bit of engine oil, hand tight should be good enough to stop any leaks.

K&N oil filters have a 17mm nut welded to the end which helps greatly & they're quality is good too.
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by Basil Moss on Sat 15 Nov 2014, 8:05 am

I tighten my filters hand tight, gently. If you screw them on too tight they get welded in place, I've had to transfix them by hammering a screwdriver through to remove them in the past. No fun at all.
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by Stooby2 on Sat 15 Nov 2014, 9:39 am

If it's leaking, your best bet is to take it off, inspect the seal and the filter seat, clean it all up and put it back with a smear of clean engine oil on the seal first.

If the seal or seat are damaged, tightening it isn't really going to help.

I use a chain wrench to get filters off if I can't get them off by hand -

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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by glen.wilson1@gmx.com on Sat 15 Nov 2014, 4:15 pm

if your really struggling you can get an ebay k and n oil filter that has a socket fitment on the end
like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CB-500-R-Twin-499cc-1994-K-N-Filter-and-Motul-5000-Oil-Kit-/140942783469?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item20d0d833ed
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by Llewelyn1965 on Sun 16 Nov 2014, 12:29 am

Hand tightened the filter now. Seems to have stopped leaking!!! (fingers crossed it stays that way). Think I'll go for the K&N one when I change it over. That bit on the end of the filter looks like it solves access issues. Wasted £6 on the removal tool that doesn't fit though! Sad Will keep as a "might need it in the future" tool though!! Very Happy
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by eternally_troubled on Sun 16 Nov 2014, 2:20 pm

@Llewelyn1965 wrote:Hand tightened the filter now. Seems to have stopped leaking!!! (fingers crossed it stays that way). Think I'll go for the K&N one when I change it over. That bit on the end of the filter looks like it solves access issues. Wasted £6 on the removal tool that doesn't fit though! :( Will keep as a "might need it in the future" tool though!! :D

I have one of those 'useless' filter tools - wemoto sold me one before I realised that you can't use it due to the downpipes. Doh!

I'm hanging on to mine in the hope that me, or someone I know will eventually buy a bike that it fits!
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Re: oil filter fiddling

Post by badseeds on Sun 16 Nov 2014, 3:03 pm

@eternally_troubled wrote:
@Llewelyn1965 wrote:Hand tightened the filter now. Seems to have stopped leaking!!! (fingers crossed it stays that way). Think I'll go for the K&N one when I change it over. That bit on the end of the filter looks like it solves access issues. Wasted £6 on the removal tool that doesn't fit though! Sad Will keep as a "might need it in the future" tool though!! Very Happy

I have one of those 'useless' filter tools - wemoto sold me one before I realised that you can't use it due to the downpipes.  Doh!

I'm hanging on to mine in the hope that me, or someone I know will eventually buy a bike that it fits!
I have one those tools, too. It came with a party-pack of oil filters from David Silver. It was awkward to use on my ST1100, my VFR800 and as we all know, the CB500. Hand-tight and clean, lubed faces seems to work just fine.

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