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sullivj
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Caliper Refresh Pictures

Post by sullivj on Wed 11 Jun 2014, 8:48 pm

The bolts on my front caliper have been rusting for a while now....



I took them out and cleaned the heads with a wire brush in the Dremel.

Then, I painted them up with some black Humbrol acrylic paint.



Whilst the 1st coat was drying, I took the time to clean and polish the caliper.





Oh, not forgetting the obligatory health and safety sign, in case one of my mates tries to borrow the bike when m not around!



When the. 2nd coat has dried, I'll tread lock them back in.

30 mins, start to finish.
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Post by badseeds on Wed 11 Jun 2014, 11:40 pm

How tough is the paint? Will it not chip a soon as you put a socket on it? I'm tempted by this. I had a load of fasteners bright zinc-plated last year and was very disappointed to find that the zinc all fell off during winter.

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Post by sullivj on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 6:28 am

My mate has just rebuilt his GPZ500 from the newly powder coated frame upwards. He painted many of his bolts with 2 coats of this. He says as long as I use a flat face socket (and not a multi point one), it will be fine.

I'll let you know when I put them back in.
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Post by teamster1975 on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 11:05 am

Where did you get that clock Sully? I like that

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Post by sullivj on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 11:15 am

Thanks.

It's was an Ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-8-Chrome-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Handlebar-Clock-Waterproof-Shock-Resistant-New-/281104771784?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4173266ac8

It fits really well.  Has a little grub screw behind the face, that holds it to the bar.  There's also a bar protector rubber included.

Mine came from China though for about £12.

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Post by sullivj on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 11:21 am

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Post by teamster1975 on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 11:37 am

Brilliant, thankyou for that! Very Happy

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Post by sullivj on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm

Torqued them back in and was pleased to see that my flat faced socket didn't chew up the paint.

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Post by Beresford on Thu 12 Jun 2014, 10:43 pm

My dodge for these bolts is wire brush them 'til they're bright. Then put them back in and paint them with clear DiamondHard floor varnish.
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Post by hobbes748 on Mon 23 Jun 2014, 8:14 am

Another dodge if your calipers are really manky is to leave them soaking overnight in a bucket of warm water that's had a dishwasher tablet dissolved in it. Take it off the disc and take the pads out, but leave the line connected. You'll have to raise the bucket off the floor (an upturned bucket is just about right) to reach the caliper. Next morning give the calipers a little tickle with a soft brush and any grime still on the caliper should just come away. Rinse and re-fit.
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Post by Applecart on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 8:41 am

i totally 'get' the mend and make do ethos... but they're £1.75 each... and considering the job they do...  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by sullivj on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 10:20 am

How much?!!   affraid 

There's nothing wrong with the originals - I even renewed the threadlock!
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Post by stormbringer on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 10:35 am

@Applecart wrote:i totally 'get' the mend and make do ethos... but they're £1.75 each... and considering the job they do...  Rolling Eyes 

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Agree on what you say. Besides, my local Honda professional (and he is a pro - very particular about doing things right) states that these are actually single-use. To be discarded like copper washers and the like once disassembled.

Also, these bolts seem to come with a locking compound pre-applied. Once used, the locking compound is ruined.

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Post by sullivj on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 11:41 am

Well they weren't stretched (I measured the pitch). 

They're classed as single use, because of the pre-applied locking compound.

The threadlock I put on, replaces the pre-applied locking compound, so I'll take my chances!
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Post by HomeBrew on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 3:06 pm

Locking compound? Mine are slavered in copper-slip and they haven't come out yet..

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Post by sullivj on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 3:07 pm

Copper Slip's not such a great idea as it can affect the Torque value.
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Post by HomeBrew on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 3:15 pm

Maybe I shouldn't but usually I just tighten them by feel.
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Post by badseeds on Wed 25 Jun 2014, 7:52 pm

@sullivj wrote:Well they weren't stretched (I measured the pitch). 

They're classed as single use, because of the pre-applied locking compound.

The threadlock I put on, replaces the pre-applied locking compound, so I'll take my chances!



I'm with Sully on this. I've re-used these fasteners many, many times over the last 21 years and I've never had an issue.

Ever.

Not even including the time when the caliper mounting bolts ejected on one side on a BMW R850R whilst cruising at 70ish over the Canning Town Flyover in E16.

Definitely not.
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Post by eternally_troubled on Thu 26 Jun 2014, 1:45 pm

If you clean them up and put threadlock on there won't be a problem.

Honda put 'dry' threadlock on the OE-bolts so the Honda dealer who fits them can't forget to
put threadlock on and hence won't cost Mr. Honda an expensive lawsuit when they fall out (which is still unlikely even without any threadlock, assuming you torque them up correctly).

I wouldn't put copper-slip on, but that's just my opinion (I've never had any problem removing them, so I don't see any need...). Copper slip might be useful if you replaced them with stainless bolts - but I wouldn't do that either.

Whatever you do (including buying new bolts from Honda) you should check them periodically for tightness (or at least give them a quick look). Ideally when you fit them if you paint a tiny little stripe of paint across the line between the bolt and the fork leg you can then check visually if they have come undone.

Probably the best, but most annoying, solution would be to use lockwire - it is then easy to see that the bolt has not come undone and is really quite unlikely to fail.

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